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well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcvay. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both and that is do you see anything -- we have one suspect now deceased older brother who was a permanent resident. we have another who is a naturalized citizen as of last year. do you see anything in the legal immigration system that you now want to go back and say we need to fix this or that and include it in our bill, senator graham you first? >> well, i want to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when he was identified as a potential terrorist. but in terms of immigration, i think now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the s
well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcvay. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both and...
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any law enforcement? >> we do. >> do you? >> [speaker not understood]. >> take the mic, walk it over. >> tagging is tagging. if you're set for work release or work service, community service, [speaker not understood]. now, our -- when we're doing a lot of volunteers, we had to go with it because we had a nonprofit to clean up. when they did our clean up, they were actually reformed gangsters themselves. they had opened a nonprofit and they were doing paint overs. they were pretty astute at assessing the juveniles and assessing the areas they were in. what we've done since then, we lost our nonprofit, now everybody who does graffiti, we generally send out, not the paint, we send out to strip the toilets and public parks, pick up dog poop at the dog park. pick up something that was disgusting and they don't get a chance to paint at all. we would see where they would paint over and they would forget the part with their gang and they would paint over. they would use a roller and put stuff behind. we've done that. we've only walke
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federal law, we have had 435 terrorist convictions. under federal law. we had 100-plus arrests. maybe half a dozen under the military commission. this is clear to me that the course that can be taken, the high value interrogation group. they are skilled and they know how to do this. the miranda right can be read at a later time. he has reportedly been shot through the throat, he is incubated and he can't talk now. there is time to do the investigation, to make a clear assessment and move from there. so i really regret all of this discussion. which is creating a conflict that need not be there. the administration is redty foreadyfor this. >> chris: let me bring in congressman king. despite the comments of feinstein do you think dzhokhar tsarnaev should be treated as enemy combatant? >> i think he should be treated as enemy combatant. there are so many questions unanswered and so many potential links to terrorism here. the battlefield was not in the united states so i believe he's enemy combatant. he would not be tried before military commission. he would be tried in civilian cour
federal law, we have had 435 terrorist convictions. under federal law. we had 100-plus arrests. maybe half a dozen under the military commission. this is clear to me that the course that can be taken, the high value interrogation group. they are skilled and they know how to do this. the miranda right can be read at a later time. he has reportedly been shot through the throat, he is incubated and he can't talk now. there is time to do the investigation, to make a clear assessment and move from...
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the front end has to be law enforcement going to talk to people. in community centers, making people understand that the security services they see here are not like the security services they saw at home. the second, and this may sound radical, i would be considering calling the mother of those terrorists. there's four grieving parents in boston who lost children. there's a fifth in chechnya. i'm not saying this because it represents a velvet glove. it's a steel fist. to tell anybody who wants to do this, we're going to bring everybody into the tent, including the mother who lost one kid and might lose another, who were terrorists, and we're going to tell them we all grieve together as a family. >> jessica, what would you ask this young man? what would be the first question you'd ask? >> of course, i'd want to know all about how he was radicalized. i'd want to know all about his life story. but to me what's very important is to make sure that his story gets out there because i think kids sometimes romanticize the life. and if we can get former m m
the front end has to be law enforcement going to talk to people. in community centers, making people understand that the security services they see here are not like the security services they saw at home. the second, and this may sound radical, i would be considering calling the mother of those terrorists. there's four grieving parents in boston who lost children. there's a fifth in chechnya. i'm not saying this because it represents a velvet glove. it's a steel fist. to tell anybody who wants...
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with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into the boat where the shrink wrap over the top of the boat was disturbed. the individual picked up the shrink wrap and saw him and backed off and called 911. why there wasn't a larger or longer blood trail i can't answer that. >> judge jeanine: thank goodness for the thermal sensorring from the helicopters as well as a very alert woman who notice or the man who noticed thae blood around the boat. mike tobin, thanks so much. and now to catherine herridge, fox news chief intelligence correspondent. catherine, what do we know about the suspect's terror connection?
with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into...
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members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... we want to thank you mayor menino, governor patrick, the whole police department for the great job that they did this past week. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: the sox won 4-3 and to make up for a cancelled game because of the manhunt, they have a double header today. the dprks bi arrested an 18-year-old at chicago's o'hare airport because he was about to join a group in syria. he is an american citizen, charged with attempting to provide support to a foreign terrorist organization. after he was caught exchanging emails with someone, the government says was posing as an al qaeda recruiter. the arrest was mada the suspect boarded a flight to turkey. >> i feel sorry for the people who lost everything. my hearts go out to the people who lost everything. >> shannon: after days of waiting, residents of west, texas, are lur returning home to see what remains of their houses. investigators are trying to d
members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... we want to thank you mayor menino, governor patrick, the whole police department for the great job that they did this past week. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: the sox won 4-3 and to make up for a cancelled game because of the manhunt, they have a double header today. the dprks bi arrested an 18-year-old at...
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of course, that doesn't help an ngo if it runs afoul of laws on foreign money. i think the main thing would be what does the organization itself want? the democracy and human rights activist in egypt was company on this a year or two back and said, ask of the organization. it's probably the best judge of its own risks and what it needs. so that's all i can suggest on that. >> i'm with the investigative project on terrorism to our organization tracks domestic islamists that are filled with the rugged such as the council -- islamic society of north america and we've been able to see if there's been a close correlation between these groups and lobbying the obama administration. it come out and support the brotherhood in egypt and elsewhere in the middle east. do you think that they are having an impact on how the administration deals with indigenous christians in the muslim world? >> quick canvass. we would have no idea on, you know, what are the dynamics, just observe the phenomenon, the current administration, with the bush administration as far as are doing with
of course, that doesn't help an ngo if it runs afoul of laws on foreign money. i think the main thing would be what does the organization itself want? the democracy and human rights activist in egypt was company on this a year or two back and said, ask of the organization. it's probably the best judge of its own risks and what it needs. so that's all i can suggest on that. >> i'm with the investigative project on terrorism to our organization tracks domestic islamists that are filled with...
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many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any deeper. there's a pure disconnect between what the american public wants. there are things to take heart in and inspiration from. several months ago, there would have been a filibuster on this. but these guys knew when the newtown families visited, when americans started calling their congress people, they knew that they were being watched and they knew they at least had to have the conversation. there was a bipartisan agreement with two a-rated nra senators. six voted in favor of this. the original brady bill pertaining to 60% of gun sales, it too
many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any...
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citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing any parallels between this case and that which you defended? >> well, there's certainly some parallels because you have the explosions and this wasn't -- fortunately, wasn't as devastating as the oklahoma city bombing was. but the trial is going to be as difficult, i believe, as the oklahoma city bombing. when you have to get in and get experts and bombing experts and people to help you learn how to blow up a bomb, build a bomb and clean up a bomb, that takes an extensive amount of time and a lot of expertise. whoever ends up defending this man is going to
citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing...
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they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of gun owner emerge. there is -- serious but small percentage of gun owners who are radical and -- you know, just fire, you know, and threaten and -- let their voices be heard. i suggest that they are a minority of gun owners. >> the biggest category we have to get to is the rank and files, biggest category we have. we are going through that after this. >>> life is full of surprises except when it isn't. that brings us to the anti-background senators that followed the script perfectly. they are senators that don't alwa
they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
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he can hold him under the same laws as those in guantanamo bay. is this the administration's way to walk middle ground. chris, thanks for talking to us. tell us what you know about the idea behind this, why did the obama administration decide to take this tact. >> chris: it is a tact they took ever since the underwear bomber. it's called the public safety exception. if there is a live investigation and possibility of a continued threat to public safety, prosecutors are able to talk to a criminal in this case a suspected terrorist about a possible, are there more bombs out there? are there other co-conspirer tos but it's limited in time and scope. once they try to get into a deeper interrogation, at that point as a criminal as opposed to be an enemy combatant and they are treating him as a criminal they have to ride his miranda rights. there are a lot of people think, treat this guy as an enemy combatant. ask him questions and they are allowed to do that as long as they don't use anything he says against him. that raises the question, do you really
he can hold him under the same laws as those in guantanamo bay. is this the administration's way to walk middle ground. chris, thanks for talking to us. tell us what you know about the idea behind this, why did the obama administration decide to take this tact. >> chris: it is a tact they took ever since the underwear bomber. it's called the public safety exception. if there is a live investigation and possibility of a continued threat to public safety, prosecutors are able to talk to a...
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now with medical marijuana laws. so we brought together these three great authors who have really delved deeply into the culture and science and economics of marijuana. and we're going to talk about how this sea change might play out as we move towards, presumably move towards legalization and how they think it should play out. so, first, i do need to read some announcements. please silence all cell phones. there's a signing area for their books following the session. book signing for this panel is located at signing area one. personal recordings of this session is is allowed, and -- is not allowed, and mark wanted me to announce at 4:20 there'll be a special gift you should your seats -- under your seats. [laughter] >> just inhale deeply at 4:20. i'll give you a sign. >> okay. in the middle we have beau kilmer, co-director of the rand drug policy research center who has written extensively on marijuana policy. most recently, he co-authored marijuana legalization, what everyone needs to know, which was published by o
now with medical marijuana laws. so we brought together these three great authors who have really delved deeply into the culture and science and economics of marijuana. and we're going to talk about how this sea change might play out as we move towards, presumably move towards legalization and how they think it should play out. so, first, i do need to read some announcements. please silence all cell phones. there's a signing area for their books following the session. book signing for this...